But thanks for your input and for defending Joomla. Every story has at least two sides.

Your article just provides misinformation. Starting with the title. I tried to address this in a manner you apparently don’t like. My apologies.

Although I like anecdotes the point that joomla tends to be less popular nowadays doesn’t back up your article/title. Besides that you compare 2 complete different pieces of software. WordPress is mainly aimed at blogging, joomla is a broader type of software. This might explain the popularity…(if you mainly blog yes go wordpress)

But to get back to – as you say – this outdated article. Crawl speed depends on structure(html) and the amount of header requests, nothing more nothing less. This Solely depends on the template/module overwrites that are being used.

I really suggest you have a look at and bring to practise the link I gave and test your “hypothesis” again. Point being, use the right tool (software) for the right situation, and don’t get tricked thinking joomla is a priori slower and thus less cool or whatever you want to call it. Both pieces of software are great if you use them what that are meant for.

You sure are paying a lot of attention to that anecdotal chart, which is such a small piece of the overall argument. When I wrote this post in 2009 (!) I was merely stating that WordPress handled more of the things required for “good SEO” than Joomla did right out of the box. Google’s Matt Cutts agreed with me then, and probably still does now.

Here’s another anecdotal chart. Check out the popularity of WordPress vs. Joomla over the past several years. Is it coincidental that Joomla’s popularity has been falling since 2009?
http://www.google.com/trends/?q=joomla,+wordpress

This chart you present solely depends on the template that is being used. The few milliseconds that are required for both cms to load the index.php is pretty much the same. A good optimized template should perform just as well on both joomla and wordpress cms. That said, most templates are offered as a multi purpose template that includes a lot of features one doesn’t need. For instance Mootools, it’s included by default but most templates don’t even use it.

If you want to speed up your website than fix your template, compress files, cache, combine header requests (i.e. use sprites), and don’t listen to the author of this non article. The chart presented doesn’t even have measurements that say something useful. Besides that Its not the amount of kilobytes that makes a website slow (to a certain degree ofcourse). its the amount of header requests.

have a look here:
http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html

and please alter your article that states you were bad informed and had no idea what you were talking about

I used Joomla for years, and eventually migrated most of our CMS sites to WordPress. I also like Drupal, for what it’s worth. But Joomla has not impressed me at all.

WordPress does a simple brochures and blogging sites. Joomla runs advanced web applications or powerful CMS driven sites. You can not say one is better then the other. Both products have a maturity and value to them.

What my guess is that you know WordPress so you vote for it. If you knew Joomla you would not be saying such things. A “Technology Agnostic” person would say “right tool for the job”.

My advise > Think before you blog. This post is nonsense.

Gary Brooks

Please do not be sad. It’s easy to see that WordPress does not rank higher then Joomla or any other CMS / standard website. What matters is good hard work and good SEO.

On a side note> You would at least think you would get our domain name right. The Domain is Joomla.org not Joomla.com

what is meaningless is this blog post. As a so called expert you should at least try not to post propaganda.

You are ranked 920,068. CloudAccess.net is ranked 10,361. Now CloudAccess.net is a Joomla site and I have done almost zero SEO work done. We have a much higher PR then your http://r3r.com site.

If you want to compare apples to apples you can see that my Joomla site has 300 times more power in SEO world then your WordPress site.

Please either of you show me a site you own that has a higher ranking and is a WordPress site. I would also like to note that we have about 12 PR 10 sites in the world and Joomla.org is one of these sites.

Proof is in the numbers. Show me yours now.

Gary Jay Brooks
@garyjaybrooks

From my point of view a blog post is rare to be at the top of the engine. Most pages at the top if the index are raw formatted “pages” that have been optimized to be indexed under that phrase.

Joomla and WordPress both have:

-Pages
-SEF URL’s
-Meta Details listed in article compose views
-Ability to link internally

If you want to speak about usability of the SEO systems both have the detailed listed right in the column of the article when composed.

All the other labor needs to be done off site or linking.

I’ll advise everyone to stop worrying about the CMS and worry about what Google says.

Gary Jay Brooks